How To Say What You're Thinking
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 12 March 2024
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Shannon is set to become an ordained minister—but she has always struggled with public speaking. Here's the thing: She's fine in front of large gatherings. In smaller gatherings, however, she mentally "freezes up" and rambles until she regains her train of thought. As Shannon prepares to start interacting with a congregation, Courtney Martin sits her down with former How To! host Charles Duhigg, author of Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection. Charles gives Shannon the tools to understand others and be understood herself.
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| 0:30.4 | Usually I give quite a prelude, but I will keep it pretty short. |
| 0:34.8 | And I just want to name that you wrote in about your struggles with |
| 0:37.9 | communication and here we are communicating. Yeah. |
| 0:43.8 | Welcome to how to. I'm Courtney Martin. And as you just heard, today we're in for conversation |
| 0:50.6 | about, well, conversations. Pretty meta. I know. I'm Shannon. I live in San |
| 0:58.8 | Leandro, California. I wrote into the show because I guess I kind of freeze and just need to know |
| 1:06.7 | how to speak in front of groups, that kind of thing. |
| 1:13.9 | To be clear, this isn't your average case of stage fright. |
| 1:18.9 | Shannon actually doesn't mind speaking in front of a large group of people when she has time to prepare. |
| 1:24.3 | Instead, this particular hang-up comes from talking to smaller groups of people. |
| 1:31.0 | I think this has been a struggle for me for a long time, but it didn't really like show itself until I was in grad school. It's a lot of just like open conversation and |
| 1:39.5 | I noticed, well, I'm not particularly great at that. |
| 1:45.0 | I like to observe, take it in, and I'm not the person, you know, who, like, |
| 1:50.5 | trying to be the center of attention or who just comes up with, like, these amazing, |
| 1:56.0 | well-spoken, articulate sentences right off the dome. |
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