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🗓️ 19 January 2022
⏱️ 113 minutes
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With so much information, and gadgets and access and hustle and email and …and.. aren’t you overloaded at work!? It’s understandable and it’s a real problem. If this describes you or someone you love…you’ll LOVE this episode of the show.
Enter: Jason Fried. He’s the brilliant NYT best-selling author and co-founder of the software firm, Basecamp. Since long before meeting Jason in person he’s always caught my eye as perhaps THE outspoken thinker / critic of the current status of work, our unhealthy habits around our jobs, and our addictions to busy-making. Whether it’s the toxic hustle, the grow-at-all-cost mentality, or the idea of working your fingers to the bone…Jason helps us all see why 99% of this approach is rubbish. And within 3 minutes of meeting him / listening to this episode, I’m banking you’ll be in agreement with him.
The one refreshing difference with Jason? He also gives us a roadmap to fix what we’ve broken. In this episode we talk about his latest book (co-authored with previous CJLIVE podcast guest David Heinemeier Hansson) called It Doesn’t Have to be Crazy at Work, which lays out a play-by-play on how to avoid all exhaustion, stress, and burnout and how to find tools for reshaping success, habits, trust, self care, and gaining that much-needed fresh perspective.
In this episode, we cover
How hard work and hours are not the same thing. In fact, long hours leads to burn out.
Why instant communication (slack, messenger, text etc) is making us slaves to our devices, less effective, and spending more time on the conveyor belt of information consumption than doing any real work.
Some insights and strategies for regaining control over our screen time, our sleep patterns, and where we put our our attention.
A re-framing of our always-busy culture around the JOYS of missing out. Not FOMO…we’re talking JOMO.
Why regaining control of our time starts with learning how to say no.
…and that’s all in the first 10 minutes. Just kidding but you get the point. This episode of the podcast is chock full of inspired virtues for reclaiming our spirit, doing GREAT work and loving life in the process.
Enjoy!
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0:00.0 | Whenever I make a decision, I go, |
0:05.0 | will I be happy with this in a year? |
0:09.0 | And I don't know, but I think about that. |
0:11.0 | I go, I know I'm making it about now, |
0:14.0 | but will I regret this decision? |
0:16.0 | And I'm not always right about it, |
0:18.0 | but I've gotten better at honing that instinct. |
0:20.0 | And so that's another framework that I use a lot. |
0:21.6 | Will I not be happy about this in New York? |
0:23.6 | It's really easy to make short-term decisions that you think, like, for right now, |
0:26.6 | but you know, you're stuck with a lot of these decisions, |
0:29.6 | and like, you don't want to regret these things. |
0:31.6 | I don't want to pile up regrets as I go, or pile up things that I just wish I hadn't done. I don't want to do that. |
0:39.4 | So I just think moving slowly is the way to do it. |
0:47.0 | All right, that clip, that brief clip, is a clip from today's guest in the show, Jason Freed. |
0:56.2 | Now, Jason is the founder and CEO of Basecamp, a great product management that I have used for a number of years, |
1:01.0 | specifically early on in my photography career when we were shifting to managing all kinds of projects all over the place. I was totally enamored with the simplicity of the product. |
1:08.9 | Jason's also the author of multiple best-selling books, one that originally |
1:13.0 | caught my attention a number of years ago called Rework, and most recently, it doesn't have to be |
1:18.4 | crazy at work, which is obviously very prescient for today's times. Now, in this episode, we cover a bunch |
1:26.3 | of things. It is largely about leadership |
1:31.1 | around the future of work. It's super insightful around all things, entrepreneurial and business. |
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