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How to Save the Amazon part 3: ask the people that know – podcast

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The Guardian

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4.2938 Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

As a companion to the Guardian’s Missing in the Amazon podcast, global environment editor Jon Watts goes in search of answers to the question Dom Phillips was investigating when he was murdered: how can we save the Amazon? In the final episode of a three-part series, Jon encounters a radical new view of the Amazon’s history being uncovered by archaeologists. Far from an uninhabited wilderness, the rainforest has been shaped by indigenous peoples for thousands of years. Jon finds out how their expert knowledge could be harnessed to secure the Amazon’s future. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/sciencepod

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:10.3

Do you dream of authentic experiences that enrich your soul?

0:14.6

Then let Hilton immerse you in Southeast Asia and experience the unforgettable.

0:19.9

Celebrate life with the Otternan ritual at the ancient Bortupage Temple in Bali.

0:25.3

Witness Asia through the eyes of local and international artists in Singapore.

0:30.3

Cruise the Gulf of Thailand and meet with the roaming pigs of Ko Madsen.

0:35.4

Discover more with Hilton at the Guardian.com forward slash travel Southeast Asia.

0:40.2

This message was paid for by Hilton.

0:43.1

Riga is a city that has it all.

0:46.0

Start your day in the charming old town.

0:48.9

A UNESCO World Heritage site where Art Nouveau buildings rubbed shoulders with ancient landmarks.

0:55.0

From there, stop at the vast central market to stock up on local delicacies before heading to the

1:00.9

pristine white sands of Vitzaki Beach.

1:04.2

Fly with British Airways and discover Latvia's lively capital for yourself.

1:08.5

To start planning your trip, visit b.com forward slash riga.

1:12.6

This message was paid for by British Airways.

1:15.6

Not long after I'd first moved to Brazil as the Guardian's Latin America correspondent,

1:26.6

fellow British journalist Don Phillips invited me out for some I'd first moved to Brazil as the Guardian's Latin America correspondent,

1:32.1

fellow British journalist Don Phillips invited me out for some drinks.

1:36.9

We'd both recently found ourselves in Rio de Janeiro.

1:47.8

It was one of those balmy Rio nights that are made for sipping Kaiparinias or ice-cold beers. It was a welcome evening. I'd been struggling with Brazil's slow-moving bureaucracy, how expensive the city was, and the language of my

1:54.1

new home. Dom, on the other hand, had been living for several years in Sao Paulo and was already under the skin of Brazil,

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