Do you want to escape the nine to five?

Or do you want the freedom to work when you want, where you want, and with whom you want?

The Art of Passive Income podcast explores opportunities for you to achieve total freedom

so you can live life on your own terms.

And now, here is your host, Mark Podolsky, from The Land Geek.

Hey, it's Mark Podolsky, the Land Geek, the favorite niche real estate website,

the landgeek.com. And on today's podcast, I've got Joe Virey from ustag.com.

I dot. And I dot, us t a g.com. Of course, I should know this. And Scott Todd is off today.

If you're not familiar with Joe and ustagi.com, Joe is a, Joe Virey has worked exclusively

with property owners since 2001.

He's an OG in the business, successfully providing tax, retirement, and estate planning

strategies by using legal, IRS compliant, and proven tax planning

structures combined with effective engineered-based studies. He specializes in working with

those who want to protect their assets and create wealth. In addition to cost segregation

for large $500 million buildings, a single-familyences. U.S. Tax Advocers Group

offers tax savings strategies, 179D and 45L energy tax credits, and savings as well as research

and development tax credits. Joe, between you and me, I've been searching the world. No one

likes taxes. This is right at my alley.

Welcome. Well, thank you, Mark. Yeah, it's a, it was great transition for me to get involved

in what I do because it's, it's a situation where, you know, instead of going out there,

not, not, no offense to copy your salesman, but instead of trying to sell a copier, you know,

what I give my clients is money. So it's trying to sell a copier, you know, what I give

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