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The Personal Finance Podcast

How to RETIRE BY 30! (With Cody Berman)

The Personal Finance Podcast

Andrew Giancola

Business, Investing, Entrepreneurship

4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Nobody teaches you that financial independence is a spectrum. Here is the mindset shift that changed everything. 👉 Join Andrew's FREE Masterclass The Portfolio Pyramid: https://event.webinarjam.com/q05p7/register/o37wxuz?webinar_id=22  What You'll Learn in This Episode Why financial independence is a spectrum and how to find the right number for your specific life The two paths to financial freedom and which one fits your situation Why lifestyle inflation in the big three categories kills most people's FI timeline before it even starts How Cody tripled his income multiple years in a row and what he did with every extra dollar Why automation beats discipline every single time and which financial decisions you should never make manually How to buy 11 real estate units in 11 months and what that actually cost out of pocket The one conversation you need to have with your partner to get them on board with financial independence without a single spreadsheet Start Here  Join the community built to help you master your money, stay accountable, and reach financial freedom.   👉 Try Master Money Academy FREE for 7 days today! https://mastermoney.co/join/ 👉 Join Andrew’s FREE Investing for Beginners Masterclass https://event.webinarjam.com/q05p7/register/0o8z9io?webinar_id=21 👉 Join The Master Money Newsletter where you will become smarter with your money in 5 minutes or less per week Here! https://expert-hustler-605.ck.page/6aa7bb9a79 Partner Deals Indeed → Get a $75 sponsored job credit ⁠http://Indeed.com/personalfinance⁠ Policygenius → Free life insurance quote ⁠http://policygenius.com⁠ Chime → Get more rewarding fee-free banking at ⁠https://www.chime.com/PFP⁠ Monarch Money → Up to  60% off | MEMORIAL DAY WAREHOUSE CLEAROUT ⁠http://www.monarch.com/PFP⁠ Shopify → Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at ⁠http://shopify.com/pfp⁠   Wayfair → Get 80% OFF on April 25th through the 27th ⁠http://wayfair.com⁠   DeleteMe → 20% off with code PFP ⁠https://joindeleteme.com/PFP20/ Tool/s Mentioned Retirement Calculator https://expert-hustler-605.kit.com/e6b8d4f8a2 Book/s Mentioned Retire by 30: https://retireby30book.com The 4-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferriss  The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel The Five Types of Wealth by Sahil Bloom The Latte Factor by David Bach  The Millionaire Next Door Episode/s Mentioned 5 Side-Hustles That Can Turn into a Full time Income! https://youtu.be/bEIzgYWLi1I  5 Side Hustles That Can Turn into a Full time Income! Part 2 https://youtu.be/10C4zt9w8NQ  5 Side Hustles That Can Turn into a Full Time Income! (Part 3) https://youtu.be/jEkKQZVYLSg  Watch Next How to Manage Your Money (and Still Enjoy Life) https://youtu.be/BWocw8B-xnY  The Housing Market Is Rigged (Here's How to Beat It) With David Sidoni https://youtu.be/ccXY6vTNJu0  Focus on THIS in Retirement (Everything Else is Noise) https://youtu.be/afrCCLz4aJ4  How to Build Your Investment Portfolio (The Portfolio Pyramid!) https://youtu.be/Vn-NXfFWtfU  How to Invest Your First $10K https://youtu.be/GCW1lfujZ2I  Connect with Cody Berman  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/codydberman/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/codydberman/ X: https://twitter.com/codydberman  Personal Website: https://codydberman.com Podcast: https://thefishow.com/episodes/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@codydberman/  Connect with Andrew Instagram → https://instagram.com/mastermoneyco Website → https://mastermoney.co TikTok → https://tiktok.com/@mastermoneyco X → https://x.com/mastermoneyco LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-giancola-45027b340 YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@mastermoneyco/ Question for you: Where are you on the financial independence spectrum right now? Drop your target in the comments and tell us the one thing you are doing this month to get there faster.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

pushing yourself to the limit. So I think a lot of people have this dream life that they idealize, but they don't actually understand how much it costs. Remember the first $5 I made online. It just feels different. It feels so good to make money yourself without a boss, without having to check in. Like, you just make the money. You created the website. Maybe you recorded the podcast. You did whatever. You created the digital product. It's just, it's a different feeling. It just gets worse and worse.

0:21.4

Even when they do get that next bonus,

0:23.4

and they go from making 100 to 120K,

0:26.2

then they just get a fancier car,

0:27.3

then they just get a slightly bigger apartment.

0:28.7

Then they go on an extra vacation,

0:30.3

and it's just this vicious cycle that never ends until.

0:32.8

Yeah.

0:44.8

I'm happy. So, Cody, welcome to the personal finance podcast.

0:47.3

I'm very sad to be here. It's been a long time coming.

0:52.0

I am so excited to have you here because I want to talk through kind of financial independence and you are someone who is amazing in the

0:55.0

financial independence community because you started pretty young and you were able to reach

0:59.0

financial independence at a young age as well so can you kind of talk about your background and

1:02.9

your journey to financial independence yeah cut me off if i'm too long winded here but basically

1:07.4

started back when i was 19 years old i read the four hour-hour work week by Tim Ferriss. That book completely shifted my, just worldview, my mindset about money. Because up to that point, I always thought you had to trade your time for money on a linear basis. So growing up, you know, lawyers made a lot of money. Doctors made a lot of money. This person makes $100 per hour. This person makes $200 per hour. But until I read

1:28.5

Tim Ferriss, I didn't understand that there were people who also made money, regardless of whether

1:33.5

or not they were working. There were people who made $100,000 a year just from real estate or from

1:38.4

their stock market investments. And they didn't trade a single dollar or a single hour for that

1:43.3

dollar. So like that whole thing of like you

1:45.6

don't have to trade your time for money on a linear basis completely shifted my worldview.

1:49.8

And that's when I kind of went this full bore into financial independence. I started every

1:54.2

South House you could possibly think of. I had tried over 30 plus at this point. And so that was like 19.

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