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All of these friends of yours said, well, you're going to be so happy when you retire.

Psychologists like to use this equation that our happiness at any

given moment is our expectations minus our reality. So not only is your reality one of real grief,

but your expectations were that this was going to be great. So there's this huge gap between

what everybody said that you ought to feel like in retirement and what you're currently feeling like.

Right, right. I've been surprised that no one, I mean absolutely no one has talked about the grief and the sadness.

Which is shocking to me.

Yeah, me too. I felt that way too.

Welcome to how to.

I'm Courtney Martin.

People don't like change.

While it's pretty much the only constant in our lives, we still don't know how to deal with it,

especially when change strikes to the core of who you are.

That's what this week's listener is struggling with.

My name's Patty. I'm recently retired from 50 years in corporate health care administration.

And everyone was telling me, oh, it's going to be great. It's the best thing I've ever done.

It's just going to be so terrific. And I was surprised how sad I was. I was just melancholy. Like a lot of us,

Patty was looking forward to retirement. She's one of those like super effective people.

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