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This is channels with Peter Kafka. That is me. I'm also the chief correspondent and business insider.

And today we're talking about how you take a media property that's been around for a long time

before the internet and find a way to bring in new eyeballs and new revenue. That property is

wired, the place that told you about the internet before the internet even existed,

and the person who's reviving it is Katie Drummond, who's been running the property for

a couple of years. And as we discussed, Wired has always done interesting and important work.

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