Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller. This is a podcast about how we make meaning of our lives and experience the miracle of living.

In this episode, How to Recovery when things can't ever be the same. I actually recorded this episode about three years ago before I'd experienced the greatest traumas in my own life.

I make different meaning from the message you're about to hear now.

The idea of recovering from a trauma or tragedy is different for me now.

To recover seems like just by the word itself, getting back to normal, back to where you were. But with my

experience now and maybe yours, this is impossible. It's like having adult kids and wanting to go

back to when they were little. You just can't. You must recover to a new existence, in essence.

So my guest here, Dr. Nita Bouchon, when Nita was 16 years old, her mom died.

When she was 17 years old, her brother died.

Then when she was 19, her dad died.

She became caregiver for her younger brother.

She, quote, recovered and started a successful cosmetic dentist business.

She married and then divorced from an abusive marriage.

She finally went on a pretty epic journey and found real recovery and later founded the Global Grit Institute and co-founded the Dharma Coaching Institute.

She's got a really large following online, a really popular podcast called The Brave Table, where people tune in to hear her guidance on dealing with the hardships of life.

I met Nita after she published her book called That Sucked, Now What, How to Embrace

the Joy in Chaos and Find Magic in the Mess.

So in this message you're about to hear, this discussion, we cover deep territory in regard

to what resilience and recovery really is and how it differs for each of us depending on,

well, a lot.

So coming up next, my discussion with Nita Bouchon and as she says, how to embrace joy in chaos and find magic in the mess.

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