And I actually felt almost a bit ashamed of it all because, you know, family and friends were worried about me because I was really in a bad place and I kept saying to myself, like no one's died. And I was like, oh, but actually someone maybe did die like me, essentially.

Like something is dying here.

And I don't think we give ourselves that time, that grace to say,

I'm going into a new chapter, it made me think, you know, this is not the only time this is going to happen to me. I hope it's not as extreme, but, you know, we're always changing. This is life. Life is full of these little griefs and like when you actually look at them you know you can get through them.

Hey there so have you ever wondered if we've just gotten success all wrong?

We chase after all the things we're told it's supposed to be.

Money, status, accomplishments, fame, stuff, and even if we get all of it or much of

it, we end up giving up so much of our humanity that we find ourselves

empty inside. We've got the trappings of success, yet we end up feeling trapped.

Well that was the experience of my guest today.

Sunday Times best-selling an award-winning author Emma Gannon, who ironically was pushed to

a breaking point while writing what would eventually become a best-selling book on how we've gotten success all wrong.

In late 2022, just after turning in the manuscript for her book, The Success Myth, which

redefines societal notions of achievement.

Emma found herself barely able to get out of bed.

Normally vibrant and social and excited, she no longer recognized that person staring back

at her in the mirror, and she ended up taking the entirety of the

next year to reimagine and reclaim not just her work but her life 12 months

that she ended up calling her year of nothing.

And in today's conversation, Emma shares a really candid account of her descent into that

year of profound loss of self, personal reckoning, and reclamation.

How she made the radical choice to step away

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