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The Crossway Podcast

How to Read the Old Testament in a Christ-Centered Way (Bryan Chapell)

The Crossway Podcast

Crossway

Books, Arts, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 653 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2019

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In this interview, Bryan Chapell helps us understand how to the approach the Old Testament—a section of the Bible that can often feel confusing and intimidating—and encourages us to read it with an eye toward the overarching narrative tying it all together: God’s gracious redemption of sinners culminating in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Bryan Chapell is the general editor of the ESV Gospel Transformation Study Bible. Read the full transcript. If you enjoyed this episode be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show!

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0:00.0

If all I have is, you know, a bunch of moral commands and Esops fables, and at the end of it all, there's a surprise Jesus,

0:13.0

that I'm really not understanding how the Old Testament is put together.

0:17.0

I at times have had people say, you know, I just don't believe what you teach about Jesus being in every verse of the Old Testament. And I'm saying, great, because I don't teach that.

0:25.3

And I don't know any wise scholar who actually does.

0:29.4

Welcome to the Crossway podcast, a show where we sit down with authors each week for thoughtful

0:33.8

interviews about the Bible, theology, church history, and the Christian life.

0:38.7

I'm Matt Tully, and today I'm talking with Brian Chapel.

0:41.9

Brian is the former president of Covenant Theological Seminary and currently serves as

0:46.0

senior pastor of Grace Presbyterian Church in Peoria, Illinois.

0:50.8

He's the host of the radio program Unlimited Grace, the author of numerous books, and the general editor of the ESV Gospel Transformation Study Bible.

1:00.2

In our conversation today, Brian and I discuss what it means and doesn't mean to read the Old Testament through a Christ-centered lens, while also respecting the original meaning of the biblical text.

1:11.6

He explains how the Old Testament really does point forward to the gospel, the good news that

1:16.6

God saves sinners through Israel's Messiah. Let's get started.

1:23.5

Brian, thank you so much for joining us on the Crossway podcast today.

1:27.3

You're welcome, Matt. Good to be with you.

1:29.2

A lot of our listeners, our pastors, a lot of people involved in ministry in some way.

1:34.5

Maybe they've been to seminary. Maybe they're just avid Bible studiers on their own.

1:39.6

And one of the things that I think we often struggle with is knowing how to read the Old Testament.

1:45.3

Why do you think it is that it's such a challenging thing for us to kind of figure out?

1:50.8

Well, I'm sure some of it is that we tend to read very atomistically.

1:56.1

We see a command, you shall not steal, and we say, well, what should I say about that? Well, I should

2:01.6

tell people not to steal. And since I've got the Bible verse that backs me up, what could be wrong

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