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🗓️ 18 September 2025
⏱️ 59 minutes
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It’s no secret that masculinity is under assault, but it’s not just “toxic masculinity.” Society itself is increasingly treating boys like defective girls. In this episode, Nick interviews Rebekah Lovell, wife of John Lovell (Warrior Poet Society), and a homeschool mother of two boys, about how parents can and should go about raising boys to become men.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:02:27 The Struggle With Raising Boys
00:06:31 Why Boys Are Under Attack
00:13:55 Boys Are Being Raised as Defective Girls
00:16:59 How Parents Can Raise Their Sons in a Broken System
00:19:04 The Benefits of Homeschooling
00:25:42 The Difference Between Raising Boys and Girls
00:34:30 Arbitrary Rules Invite Rebellion
00:36:39 How Parents Can Help Boys to Become Men
00:40:58 Raising Teenagers
00:48:25 Dealing With Cultural Feminism
00:51:40 What Dads Need to Tell Their Wives About Raising Men
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone and welcome back to making the argument. |
| 0:02.5 | Today, we have a special interview with a, with a special lady. |
| 0:07.3 | Rebecca Lovell. |
| 0:08.9 | Now, I sometimes admit in public that I'm an admirer of John. |
| 0:16.2 | And, well, I'm always wanting to say that I like an admire Rebecca. |
| 0:19.4 | John, you know, here and there, |
| 0:22.6 | here and there. But John and I have, I've been honored to share the stage with John Lovell at the |
| 0:28.1 | great homeschool convention. We talked about being dangerous dads. Rebecca's also speak there. |
| 0:32.0 | My wife Tina will be speaking next year. But today, we're going to talk about Rebecca's new book. And before we get into this, because it is an excellent book. And I highly encourage you go out and check it out. It's boyhood resurrected. And it's very timely. It's very timely. It's interesting. Rebecca and I were talking beforehand. We're both admirers of Charlie Kirk. And Charlie was someone that understood that, you know, if you want to save the country, you don't just vote harder, right? We need to restore faith in God. We need to restore the faith in the family. And a lot of that comes with, I'm doing a lot of the damage that has been done to boys. And that's where it starts. It starts with young boys. And that's where Rebecca talks about. But Rebecca, before we get into that, I got to give you the, when John called me up and said |
| 1:15.5 | Rebecca, or excuse me, he said, Nick, would you be willing to read Rebecca's book and perhaps |
| 1:22.0 | maybe do a blurb on it? I said, I will, okay, for Rebecca, not for you, John. So this is what I sent John, |
| 1:29.6 | and I don't think it's making it into the book, and I'm a little bit offended. I thought this |
| 1:34.0 | was brilliant. But here's what I sent John. Honestly, after trying to get through the absolute |
| 1:39.6 | slog that was John Lovell's book, I'm just thrilled to see that there is, in fact, a level |
| 1:43.7 | that can |
| 1:44.2 | commit a coherent thought to paper without making my eyes bleed. Rebecca's book, Boyhood Resurrection, |
| 1:50.4 | is relevant, timely, insightful, accessible, and enjoyable to read. In short, it completely |
| 1:55.6 | restores the damage done to the written word by John, and for that service alone, she deserves |
| 2:00.7 | a Pulitzer. But she goes |
| 2:02.7 | on to brilliantly articulate the current struggles associated with raising boys to become good men. |
| 2:07.5 | I only wish this book had been written and read by John before he wrote his. She could have |
| 2:12.0 | saved us all a lot of suffering. Having said that, better late than never, and I know we will all |
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