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Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark

How To Raise A Charlie Kirk | Turning Point Academy’s Dr. Hutz Hertzberg

Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark

Turning Point USA

True Crime, Health & Fitness

59.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Have you ever wondered what it takes to raise a leader like Charlie Kirk?


In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Hutz Hertzberg, Charlie’s longtime friend and now Chief Education Officer at Turning Point Education. We talk about Charlie’s faith journey, why he pushed to abolish the Department of Education, how parents can pick the right U.S. History curriculum, and why Dr. Hertzberg is hopeful about the future of America’s schools.


Our Guest:

Dr. Hutz Hertzberg


Dr. Hutz's Links:

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Turning Point Education


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0:00.0

Have you ever found yourself wondering, how can I be sure to raise a Charlie Kirk?

0:26.8

Well, I thought it would be fitting to talk to someone who's been in Charlie's orbit since he was a child.

0:32.3

A few decades later, Charlie personally tapped him to spearhead Turning Point USA's education initiative.

0:38.8

Today on the show, I'm joined by Dr. Hutz-Hertsberg, chief education officer of Turning

0:43.3

Point Education, where he leads all of their educational strategy and staff.

0:48.0

Before that, he served as president of a Christian school in the northern suburbs of Chicago,

0:52.3

which, under his leadership, was consistently ranked the number one best Christian high school in the northern suburbs of Chicago, which, under his leadership, was consistently

0:55.3

ranked the number one best Christian high school in Illinois. His career spans two decades in

1:00.2

higher ed, leadership roles at places like the Moody Church in 20 years as a Navy Reserve

1:04.7

chaplain, mostly with the U.S. Marine Corps. In this conversation, we talk about how Charlie's

1:09.6

faith deepened over the years, why Charlie

1:12.5

was so passionate about abolishing the Department of Education, how to choose the right U.S.

1:17.3

history curriculum for your homeschool, and what gives Hutz hope that we can turn things around

1:22.5

in the public school system. Watch this episode on the real Alex Clark YouTube channel or

1:26.2

Culture Apothecary on Spotify.

1:28.2

Please take two seconds to leave a five-star review for this show. This is a free way to support us

1:32.4

and help us continue Charlie's mission for us to heal us at culture physically, emotionally,

1:37.6

and spiritually. Please welcome Chief Education Officer of Turning Point Education and lifelong friend

1:43.4

of Charlie Kirk's Dr Dr. Hutz,

1:45.2

Hartsburg.

1:49.0

You've known, or at least indirectly known, Charlie Kirk since he was in fifth grade.

1:54.7

What can you tell us about Charlie Kirk as a child?

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