How To! | Quit Your Dream Job
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🗓️ 9 September 2025
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
Alice has an objectively cool job. She programs film festivals and gets to watch documentaries for a living. But that living is also stressful: It's low-paying, seasonal work that provides some status, sure, but not much stability. On this episode of How To!, Carvell Wallace brings on atheist chaplain and author Vanessa Zoltan, who spent two years helping countless people decide whether to quit (or not) on her podcast The Real Question. Vanessa shares what she learned from those conversations—and helps Alice figure out how to reimagine her life (with job security).
If you liked this episode check out How To Switch Careers in Midlife, How To Take a Sabbatical, and How To Know When to Quit Your Job.
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| 0:00.0 | Why are businesses like HelloVet choosing Apple products and services? |
| 0:04.8 | So we started the business two years ago. |
| 0:07.2 | We had a few people who were used to PCs and this was their first foray into Macs. |
| 0:12.5 | But it's been super smooth getting everyone onto those devices and everyone seems really, really happy. |
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| 0:50.9 | There was literally a book in the 1980s in the U.S. called You Can Have It All. |
| 0:55.4 | And that's not true. We're going to die one day, which means you only get to live one life, |
| 0:59.9 | which means you don't get to live all the lives. |
| 1:02.3 | It sucks that you're not going to get to live all the lives. |
| 1:05.4 | And I'm not going to pretend it doesn't suck. |
| 1:08.1 | But you got to get comfortable with that amount of grief so that you can take |
| 1:12.5 | care of yourself elsewhere. |
| 1:16.2 | I'm Carval Wallace, and this is How To, the show where people ask us the question they can't |
| 1:21.6 | get off their mind, and we bring on an expert to help them work it out. |
| 1:25.7 | And more often than not, those people are at a kind of |
| 1:28.4 | crossroads in life. And today's listener is no exception. I'm Alice. I work as a film programmer, |
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