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Abel James Show

How to Own Your Health Records and Your Money with Jon Gordon

Abel James Show

Abel James

Entrepreneurship, Health & Fitness, Business, Alternative Health

4.72.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2026

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Are medical bills eating away at your savings? 

Today we're exploring the hidden connection between sound money and sound health, and why inflation is stealing more than just your purchasing power.

Joining us today is the man behind innovations like Sound HSA, Nos Fabrica, Fork and Coin, and the Chicago Bitcoin Collective: Jon Gordon. With ten years in healthcare and deep knowledge across multiple domains, he's a dude worth listening to.

And if you're in the Chicago area on September 14th, I'll be playing the V4V Live Show and would love to see you there. As the event organizer, Jon is the one who made it happen, so come hang with us! I'll be playing original tunes from the upcoming album, and Nora will be playing with her full band. Check out details and grab tickets for the show here.

In this episode, you'll hear:
  • Why to prioritize owning your health data instead of letting corporations sell it
  • How inflation steals your time 
  • How decentralized philosophy and breathwork lead to individual sovereignty
  • How to earn real Satoshis with global step challenges
  • And much more...
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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey all, this is Abel James and thanks so much for joining us on the show. Are medical bills slowly eating away at your savings?

0:08.0

Today we're exploring the hidden connection between sound money and sound health and why inflation is stealing more than just your purchasing power.

0:16.5

If you've ever wondered how the monetary system affects your ability to eat well, move your body,

0:22.3

and take control of your own health care, you're going to love this episode.

0:25.7

Joining us today is my friend John Gordon.

0:28.3

With over a decade in health care and deep roots in the Bitcoin community,

0:32.8

John is bridging the gap between preserving your freedom and supporting your health at the same time. Now, if you'd like to stay up to date on all the cool live events and in-person stuff, we have coming music shows, we have get-togethers, retreats, and much, much more. Be sure to sign up for my newsletter at abeljames.com. That's abeljames.com. You can also follow me on Substack, ablejames.substack.com. Look forward to

0:57.1

seeing you there. We also just launched a brand new app if you'd like to check that out as well as

1:01.8

our Club Wild community, and I highly encourage you to do so. Be sure to visit wildrx.com.

1:08.6

All right, in this episode with John, you're about to hear why inflation steals your time

1:13.3

and how that directly impacts your ability to prioritize health, family, and rest.

1:18.7

Bitcoin is a health savings technology, how decentralized philosophy and breathwork both

1:24.7

lead back to individual sovereignty.

1:27.0

Why to prioritize owning your health data instead of letting corporations sell it?

1:31.3

And much, much more.

1:33.2

Let's go hang out with John.

1:39.7

Welcome back, folks.

1:41.5

John Gordon is a friend, a strategy consultant, yoga teacher, and co-founder of Sound HSA, NOSFabrica,

1:49.2

and the Chicago Bitcoin Collective and Fork and Coin.

1:52.5

With 10 years in the healthcare industry and a key member of the Bitcoin community,

1:57.2

John is helping people to bridge the gap between sound money that preserves our freedoms

2:02.1

while supporting our health at the same time.

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