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Foreign Policy Live

How to Navigate the Trade Wars

Foreign Policy Live

Foreign Policy

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.1 • 622 Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Harvard University professor and economist Dani Rodrik first questioned in the late 1990s whether globalization had gone too far. He joins FP Live to share his take on the Trump administration’s tariffs and how to navigate a historically turbulent moment in global trade. Jamieson Greer: Trump’s Trade Representative: Why We Remade the Global Order Dani Rodrik: Where Is the Global Resistance to Trump? Ravi Agrawal: How to Navigate Trump’s Tariffs Cameron Abadi: Are Tariffs the American Brexit? Keith Johnson: Trump’s Long-Promised Tariffs Upend Global Trade Peter Coy: No Need for Hoarding Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

America is changing. And so is the world.

0:04.5

But what's happening in America isn't just the cause of global upheaval.

0:08.7

It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.

0:12.5

I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C.

0:14.7

I'm Tristan Redman in London, and this is the global story.

0:18.8

Every weekday will bring you a story from this intersection, where the world and America meet.

0:24.4

Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:29.6

What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.

0:34.1

Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?

0:40.7

Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.

0:44.6

From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi.

0:50.5

What difference at this point does it make?

0:53.9

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0:56.1

Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, wherever you get your podcasts.

1:03.3

Hi, I'm Ravi Agrual, Foreign Policies Editor-in-Chief.

1:08.0

This is FP Live.

1:15.6

Trump's tariffs continue to royle global trade. But how should countries navigate the turmoil?

1:19.6

The answer depends on whether you trust Trump to stay the course.

1:23.6

Today, we'll talk about the menu of options in front of countries and whether they can

1:28.9

build a trade ecosystem without America.

1:34.0

But just one thing before we get to all of that.

1:36.8

This Friday, Trump is meeting Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska.

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