Hey, everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table.

I'm your host, Sean Duffy, along with my co-host for the podcast, but also my partner in life, Rachel Campos Duffy.

Thank you, Sean.

We're back with more conversations from our kitchen table.

Before we get to our guests, I want to lay out an interesting article that I read.

It's really going to be the premise of this whole podcast because sometimes an article

comes out that really hits a nerve. And this article,

Sean, hit a nerve on the left and the right. Now, of course, I'm talking about the Atlantic

article called How I Demolished My Life by Honor Jones, which essentially is this woman, Honor Jones, wrote an article about

how she left her husband and broke up her family and that she really felt like she just had

to do it to fulfill herself. And so it comes into that whole question of what's the right thing to do?

She said it wasn't that she didn't love her husband.

It wasn't that she, you know, anything was, you know, there wasn't any abuse.

It was just that she wasn't feeling fulfilled.

She was kind of going through a midlife crisis, if you will.

And a lot of the liberal blue check women on Twitter responded to this article really positively.

They were like, this is so brave.

This is so awesome.

We're so, you know, inspired by her.

And I will say as somebody who writes, the writing was, you know, pretty good.

But here's a good jumping as well. Sure, sure. Then I'll tell you the response on the other side. This is an article that I would never read as a man. And this is like if you open the Atlantic, you would never, never read this. It's something I would totally stop on myself. I was forced to read this article and partake in this podcast on this topic. But I did read it and it was

interesting. So this is a mom of three. She has a husband. They're from New York. They,

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