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Hi again, thanks for joining us.

If this is your first time, here's what you can expect.

Every Thursday, Goop editors will be sitting down with someone who has shown us a new way

of thinking about some aspect of life.

I'll be interviewing some guests who have completely changed our culture, like Oprah herself.

You'll also hear a lot from my chief content officer, Elise Lunin.

I know I'm biased, but I think she's the best interviewer around.

Today we're talking to Durey McKesson.

Durey is a civil rights activist, a leading voice in the Black Lives Matter movement, and

a co-founder of Campaign Zero.

A lot of you will also know him as the host of Pod Save the People, and he has a new book

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