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It was kind of that, that rock-bottom moment of like, oh, okay, now not only have I put myself in this situation, but I've hurt my husband.

I've lied to him.

I've, you know, even put our child, we had to take money out of our child's college

savings to pay off the debt, you know?

And it was, unfortunately for me, I needed that rock bottom moment to really wake up.

Yeah.

And so I think sometimes, and again, that was just that that was having that like snap into

reality and that radical acceptance of like, I got myself here now.

Now how do I get myself out of it?

And so it was it was the education of, you know, starting to work with financial planners

and, you know, people that were really good with money and started listening to podcasts going to

conferences anything that I could do to become better educated when it came to just the basics of

whatever I was afraid of when it came to money and that really helped me so the detachment the

education the deeper work the therapy work, the therapy work.

Hey, everybody, Dr. Raxer.

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