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How To Monetize Government Policy | Mark Spindel

Hidden Forces

Demetri Kofinas

Government, Business

4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 414 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Mark Spindel about monetizing government policies and how an improved understanding of their effect on markets can enhance the value and performance of your portfolio.

Demetri and Mark spend the episode's first hour evaluating Trump’s first 100 days in office, assessing his policy objectives and his effectiveness (or ineffectiveness) in turning those policies into tangible economic and political victories for his administration. They discuss:

  1. Tariff-induced supply chain disruptions

  2. Price inflation

  3. Higher interest rates

  4. Lower asset prices

  5. A falling U.S. Dollar

In the second hour, Spindel and Kofinas focus on the investment implications that stem from a more accurate understanding of government policy and its effect on markets. Listeners will walk away with a deeper understanding of:

  1. The government’s role in the economy

  2. The myth of Fed independence

  3. How policy impacts equity and bond performance

  4. The role of alternative safe assets

  5. The impact of new tax regimes on investment outcomes

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Episode Recorded on 04/29/2025

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0:00.0

What's up, everybody?

0:02.1

My name is Demetri Gaffinus, and you're listening to Hidden Forces, a podcast that inspires investors,

0:09.1

entrepreneurs, and everyday citizens to challenge consensus narratives, and learn how to think critically

0:15.6

about the systems of power shaping our world.

0:19.3

My guest in this episode is Mark Spindell, the co-founder and chief investment officer of Potomac River Capital,

0:26.3

a discretionary global macro-advisor focused on understanding and monetizing government policies,

0:33.1

especially those of central banks and finance ministries.

0:36.9

Mark was at our recent genius dinner in Washington, D.C., where the theme of the discussion

0:41.6

revolved around the Trump administration's economic and national security policies and their

0:46.9

implications for investors.

0:49.0

Building on that foundation, we spend the first hour evaluating Trump's first 100 days in office, assessing

0:55.4

his policy objectives and his effectiveness in turning those policies into tangible economic

1:01.0

and political victories for his administration. We discussed the potential for tariff-induced

1:06.6

supply chain disruptions, price increases, higher borrowing costs, lower asset prices, and a decline

1:13.7

in the relative value of the U.S. dollar, driven by a broader rejection of the United States's

1:19.5

role as the primary proponent of free trade and as the chief advocate for and guarantor of

1:25.9

the Post-Bretton Woods International Monetary and Trading Order.

1:30.1

In the second hour, Mark and I focus on the investment implications that stem from these insights,

1:35.9

and what a more accurate understanding of government policy and its effect on markets,

1:40.6

means for equity and bond performance, the role of alternative safe assets like gold,

1:46.1

and how to position yourself and your portfolio for an investment environment where government

1:50.4

policy plays a much bigger role in determining market outcomes than anything we have seen in

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