Here's Dr. Vanessa Ellen.

You know the old saying, if Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.

I said, well, mama needs to repent.

Because Mama is walking around her house like she is God.

And everybody else in the house is walking on eggshells

because she has all these standards that she has elevated above God's standards and made them be standard.

So guess who's the God in the house?

This is the Revive Our Hearts Podcast with Nancy DeMoss-Waglmoo.

Author of Brokenness, The Heart God Revives for Friday, June 30th, 2017.

You've often heard me talk here on Revive Our Hearts about the importance of life-on-life

discipling relationships.

And I've encouraged you many times to embrace that calling and to get involved in investing in other women's lives. Now, there

are a lot of practical steps and tools that can help us do that better. And today we're

going to hear from a woman who understands some of those tools involved in counseling,

mentoring, and discipling other women. Vanessa Ellen is a pastor's wife in Houston. She's also a teacher

and a counselor who's encouraged many women in groups and one-on-one, and she's a professor of

women's ministry at the College of Biblical Studies. The message we're going

to hear today is one she gave to other counselors, and she talked to them about the importance of

having a humble heart, whether you're giving or receiving counsel. Now, chances are you're not a

formal counselor, but I know you're going to get a lot out of this message.

And I've got to warn you, this isn't just about helping other women to be humble.

Dr. Ellen is also going to help you and me identify some self-righteous attitudes that may be

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