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10% Happier with Dan Harris

How to Meditate If You Have No Time to Meditate | Jake Eagle and Michael Amster (Co-Interviewed by Dan's Wife, Bianca!)

10% Happier with Dan Harris

10% Media, LLC

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.612.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2023

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

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The great meditation teacher Sebene Selassie said this about today's guests: "I think their work is going to revolutionize mindfulness." 


The guests in question are Jake Eagle, a licensed mental health counselor, and Dr. Michael Amster, a physician with a specialty in pain management who is also a certified yoga and meditation teacher. Together, they're out with a new book called The Power of Awe: Overcome Burnout & Anxiety, Ease Chronic Pain, Find Clarity & Purpose―In Less Than 1 Minute Per Day. In it, they lay out a simple technique for "microdosing mindfulness" that just about anybody can work into their daily lives.


Plus: Dan's wife, Bianca, joins Dan as co-interviewer.


In this episode we talk about:

  • How Jake and Michael stumbled upon this method (the story involves pancakes)
  • Why Bianca has had trouble booting up a meditation habit (and why Jake says he's "a terrible meditator")
  • Why people who have trouble sitting daily for extended periods might find that these microdoses are easier to work into their day
  • How to do the A.W.E. Method
  • The similarities and differences between A.W.E. and traditional mindfulness meditation
  • Practical tips for trying out A.W.E. in everyday life, given how hard it is to form habits
  • The early scientific evidence regarding the effectiveness of the A.W.E. Method
  • And, finally, whether Bianca and Dan were convinced to try the method!


For tickets to TPH's live event in Boston on September 7:

https://thewilbur.com/armory/artist/dan-harris/


Full Shownotes:

https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/eagle-amster-630

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey guys, many of you will have heard me say this before, but this is, I think, one

0:23.8

of those things that genuinely bears frequent repeating.

0:28.2

The process of making and or breaking habits can be diabolically hard.

0:33.0

And this is not your fault.

0:34.9

If you struggle with behavior change, you are not somehow uniquely dysfunctional.

0:39.6

The fact is evolution simply did not wire us for the easy adoption of healthy habits.

0:46.4

Natural selection, as I often say, was really focused on getting your DNA into the next

0:51.1

generation, not necessarily on making you content and happy.

0:55.4

As a consequence, we're very good at looking for food and mates and threats in the environment

0:59.5

and not so good at remembering to floss.

1:03.3

And these rude, brute facts about the human animal, I think, are a big part of why so many

1:08.4

people who want to meditate do not actually meditate.

1:12.4

In the nearly nine and a half years since my first book, 10% happier came out.

1:18.2

I have seen incredible shifts in terms of the practice of meditation.

1:22.8

It's no longer socially unacceptable to admit that you do it, for example.

1:26.0

Now, I'm not saying, definitely not saying that my book is the reason for this.

1:29.0

I really think the science is the reason for this.

1:31.2

But I will say that even as attitudes toward meditation have shifted, I think there are

1:36.0

still so many obstacles, including finding the time, remembering to do it, and just the

1:40.7

sheer difficulty of keeping it up.

1:42.9

Okay, so that was a long wind up, but it brings me to my guests today who have come up

1:47.6

with a one minute meditation practice that I'm pretty sure anybody or almost anybody can

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