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Future Perfect

How to make prisons more humane

Future Perfect

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Tech News, News

4.5622 Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2018

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Karianne Jackson was working for the North Dakota prison system in 2015 when a trip to Norway changed her life. There, she saw a prison with no bars and no uniformed guards. Instead, prisoners lived in small cottages with common areas, private bedrooms, even kitchens with real cups, real dishes, and real knives. And she started thinking: What if I could make the US prison system a bit more like that? ––– Further reading: Jessica Benko in the New York Times on the "radical humaneness" of Norway's Halden Prison Dashka Slater in Mother Jones on Karianne Jackson's "Norway experiment" in North Dakota Vox’s German Lopez explains mass incarceration in the United States More of Vox’s effective altruism coverage ––– Discover more podcasts from Vox here.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Carrie Ann Jackson worked for the North Dakota Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation for nine years.

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But her last two years there were very different from her first seven.

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Things started to change in 2015 when she went on a trip.

1:16.6

It was part of a bigger program, one that took U.S. prison officials on tours of prison systems overseas. In Germany, in Norway, her expectations for this trip were pretty low.

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I was really arrogant. I thought we were already doing everything right.

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It's just that our staff wasn't doing it well enough.

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Right? We were already doing what the evidence says, like, what was I really going to see other than like what I call the IKEA prison, right?

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