How To Make Money While Holding Bitcoin | Charlie Hu
The Pomp Podcast
Anthony Pompliano
4.8 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 13 August 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Charlie Hu is the Co-Founder of Bitlayer. In this conversation we talk about bitcoin, current state of DeFi, why it’s bringing together Asian retail and Western institutions, evaluating TVL as a metric, what Bitlayer is building, and the potential future for bitcoin ETF staking?
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- 0:54 - Intro
- 2:00 - Bringing Asian retail investors and Western institutions together
- 6:39 - Takeaways from Vietnam
- 8:30 - Current state of DeFi
- 11:24 - What does Bitcoin DeFi mean?
- 24:06 - Bitlayer business
- 30:01 - Bitcoin ETF staking
- 32:27 - Bitcoin as a productive vs non-productive asset
- 37:59 - Is ‘Total Value Locked’ a good metric?
- 40:28 - Where to find Charlie and Bitlayer
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