How to make $35 trillion ... disappear
The Indicator from Planet Money
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🗓️ 11 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | NPR. |
| 0:02.0 | The AI boom has had a lot of people comparing this moment to the dot-com crash. |
| 0:17.0 | That's when the US stock market boomed on the promise of the internet, but then dropped about |
| 0:21.9 | 50% from its peak. |
| 0:24.2 | Gita Goperneth is the IMF's former chief economist and second in charge. |
| 0:28.4 | She's now at Harvard. |
| 0:29.8 | And Gita has gamed out what a dot-com-style bust would actually mean for the economy today. |
| 0:36.1 | We're talking about growth basically coming to a standstill in the US. |
| 0:42.4 | This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Daryan Woods. |
| 0:45.7 | Today on the show, a conversation with Gita Gopaneth about the possible erasure of |
| 0:50.4 | $35 trillion from the global economy. |
| 0:56.0 | Economist Gita Gopaneth joined me from her Harvard recording studio late November. |
| 1:01.0 | So I think we have all the gadgets we need. |
| 1:03.9 | Looks like a very serious microphone there. |
| 1:07.0 | Yes. |
| 1:08.5 | So today I want to explore how the U.S. stock market could mean trouble for the rest of the world. |
| 1:14.2 | And to set the scene, can you describe what's been behind the US stock market's pretty big increase over 2025? |
| 1:22.6 | If you want to understand what's happening in the US stock market, I think it also helps to go back about 10 to 15 |
| 1:28.3 | years, which is that if you compare the performance of the U.S. stock market relative to other |
| 1:34.5 | stock markets around the world, the U.S. has been exceptional. So it was a one-way bet in terms |
| 1:40.9 | of putting money in U.S. equities. And so that's what happened was not just U.S. |
| 1:47.0 | households and firms put their money in the stock market, but the rest of the world also |
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