Welcome to Conversations with John and Lisa and we're in the Christmas season and I know

people are busy busy busy but I'm glad as you're driving to the mall or you're getting ready to go

and shop online you are taking time to listen to things that are important things that we've

built on and so on. I don't have a Christmas food baby. I listen to podcasts when I'm in the

jam it's my favorite thing to do but we are so excited to introduce a friend of ours. Now I'm at

this man back in 1987. I went to this little church and Charles I'm somewhere on the coast of South

Carolina and it was Chip Judd. Well we went our separate ways and I didn't see him again Lisa

until almost 25 years later and Chip had now become one of the premier foremost counselors to

ministering to leaders in the body of Christ marriages and we have opened up to Chip. Chip has

helped our marriage our family. He's pulled our souls out of our bodies. Yeah and put it back in

healthy and and recently he came and talked to our ministry team and it was profound to say the

least and we talked I think a podcast two or a go about boundaries and about you know abuse and

all this kind of stuff and I thought wow chips what he ministered on really brings enlightenment

in this area so we just want to share him with you again this is Chip Judd. All right would you be

interested in teaching that would help you enter into rest yes or no. How about a teaching that would

release you and others from unrealistic expectations. How about free up your relationship with

destructive cycles. Release God's purpose in your life. Yes. Help you to become more emotionally

stable. Yes. All right how about a name you that raised healthy urr children. Say urr. Why do I

say healthy urr children. Are you going to raise perfect kids? Why not? Because you raised them.

Why are your kids going to be jacked up? Because you're jacked up. You follow me? So don't say

your side on raising perfect kids. Raise your side on raising kids that are just a little bit healthier

than you are. Right and who does you might get further and how about a teaching that would help you

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