How To Love Your Country Without Lying About It | Ty Seidule
The Daily Stoic
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🗓️ 19 June 2026
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Summary
Today in the US, we celebrate Juneteenth, the commemoration of the emancipation of slaves in America. It’s wonderful to note the moments of historical progress like Juneteenth. But we have to remember that beautiful language pales in comparison to beautiful acts.
In today’s episode, Ryan talks with General Ty Seidule about memory, monuments, and what it means to tell the truth about the past. They discuss the difference between memory and nostalgia, why commemoration should reflect our values, and how American history is full of heroes worth honoring.
Ty Seidule served in the U.S. Army for more than three decades, retiring in 2020 as a brigadier general. He is a professor emeritus of history at West Point and received its distinguished faculty award. In 2021, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin appointed Seidule to the Congressional Naming Commission tasked with redesignating Department of Defense assets which honor Confederates, where he was elected vice chair.
Follow Ty on Instagram | @tyseidule
📚 Books Mentioned:
Robert E. Lee and Me: A Southerner’s Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause
A Promise Delivered: Ten American Heroes and the Battle to Rename Our Nation’s Military Bases
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key stoic virtues, |
| 0:07.8 | courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world. |
| 0:14.4 | Today, the United States celebrates Juneteenth, the commemoration of the emancipation of slaves in America. |
| 0:22.6 | Two years after President Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation, and nearly 90 |
| 0:28.2 | years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence, U.S. Army troops deployed to Texas, |
| 0:33.9 | the only state of the Confederacy still with institutional slavery. |
| 0:38.1 | The people of Texas are informed, ordered a Union General, in accordance with a proclamation |
| 0:43.3 | from the executive of the United States, all slaves are free. |
| 0:48.0 | There's no question that that military order deserves celebration. |
| 0:52.6 | It asserted absolute equality and began the liberation |
| 0:56.2 | of hundreds of thousands of human beings. And Marcus Aurelius would write in meditations that |
| 1:02.4 | his stoic role models taught him to conceive of a society of equal laws governed by equality |
| 1:08.5 | of statute and speech and of rulers who respect the liberty of their subjects |
| 1:14.1 | above all else. |
| 1:16.0 | It's as beautiful a sentence as any written by Thomas Jefferson, but of course, a long way |
| 1:21.8 | from Epictetus's personal experience. |
| 1:24.4 | This kind of freedom that Marcus was talking about would have been something |
| 1:27.8 | inconceivable to the early Stoics, who themselves lived in a slave society and tragically |
| 1:33.9 | did very little to stop it. Like Jefferson's writings, Marcus Aurelius' passage was just that, |
| 1:39.9 | an idea, not a reality. In 1910, Theodore Roosevelt would remind his fellow citizens of the |
| 1:46.3 | critical distinction between words and deeds. In name, we had the Declaration of Independence |
| 1:52.3 | in 1776, he said, but we gave the lie by our acts to the words of the Declaration of |
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