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Strict Scrutiny

How to Lose a Democracy in 10 Laws (with Elie Mystal)

Strict Scrutiny

Crooked Media

Philosophy, News, Government, Supreme Court, Society & Culture

4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Leah, Kate, and Melissa are joined this week by Elie Mystal, justice correspondent for The Nation, whose new book is Bad Law: Ten Popular Laws That Are Ruining America. They talk about what rotten laws should be done away with while touching on the latest news, including the detention of Mahmoud Khalil and the dismantling of the Department of Education.

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strict scrutiny is brought to you by the ACLU. The Supreme Court case, U.S. v. Scermetti,

0:06.4

could shape the future of transgender people's freedom and bodily autonomy for all of us.

0:11.3

Tennessee wants to take away transgender people's autonomy over their own bodies. They think the

0:15.9

ruling that overturned Roe v. Wade allows them to do it. This would not only violate the promise

0:20.6

we all deserve of

0:21.8

equal justice under law, it hurts everyone's freedom to control their bodies and their lives.

0:27.1

The case offers a critical opportunity to judicially check President Trump's sweeping efforts

0:31.8

to control people's bodies, families, and lives. The government has no right to deny a transgender

0:36.8

person the health care they need, just as they have no right to deny a transgender person the health care they

0:37.9

need, just as they have no right to tell someone, if when, or how they start a family. The ACLU is

0:44.2

calling on the court to uphold constitutional guarantees for everyone, including trans people. Learn more at

0:50.3

ACLU.org slash autonomy. Mr. Chief Justice, please support.

0:57.0

It's an old joke, but when I argue,

1:00.0

men argues against two beautiful ladies like this,

1:03.0

they're going to have the last word.

1:06.0

She spoke not elegantly, but with unmistakable clarity she said I ask no favor for my sex all I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet or for our next Hello and welcome back to strict scrutiny, your podcast about the Supreme Court and the legal culture that surrounds it.

1:42.4

We're your hosts. I'm Melissa Murray. I'm Leah Littman.

1:45.6

And I'm Kate Shaw. And we have a jam-packed episode for you today featuring a great interview with one of our

1:50.4

absolute favorite repeat guests. A friend of the pod, Ellie Mistal, is back to discuss his new book,

1:55.8

Bad Law, 10 Popular Laws that are ruining America. And in the course of discussing the book,

2:00.6

we're also going to be covering breaking news,

2:02.8

including the attempted deportation of lawful permanent residents for expressing views with which

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