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Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

How to Lead Through Chaos Without Burning Out

Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

LinkedIn

Careers, Business

4.8 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Change is no longer something that happens occasionally—it’s constant. And navigating it effectively requires the right mindset. In this episode of Hello Monday, Jessi Hempel sits down with FutureThink CEO, bestselling author, and LinkedIn Learning instructor Lisa Bodell to explore how simplicity, meaningful work, and essential soft skills can help us thrive in a world defined by chaos and constant change. Lisa is the author of Why Simplicity Wins and a speaker who has spent years helping leaders and teams cut through complexity to focus on what truly matters. This conversation was recorded live during LinkedIn’s learning day, in an interactive session with insights you can put into practice immediately. Lisa and Jessi discuss: How to navigate constant change versus leading through predictable change Designing your North Star around meaningful work and aligning your priorities accordingly The power of subtraction: freeing your time from low-value tasks and distractions Essential soft skills—empathy, listening, and communication—for thriving in complex environments How to reclaim control, joy, and focus in your daily work Practical tips for applying simplicity and prioritization at work Continue the conversation at Hello Monday Office Hours this Wednesday at 3 PM EST on the LinkedIn News page. Join Jessi and senior producer Sarah Storm live to discuss actionable strategies from the episode and share your own experiences.

Transcript

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0:00.0

LinkedIn News.

0:06.0

It's very different to lead through change than lead through chaos.

0:10.2

Change, you know, the outcome.

0:11.9

Like, I've got an idea, I've got a plan, and I'm going to get to it, right?

0:14.8

It's constant.

0:15.8

And that's what unmoors people, the people that are more agile and that can understand change

0:20.8

is going to be something that happens no matter what agile and that can understand change is going to be

0:21.1

something that happens no matter what, they're the ones that are going to be, they'll be standing

0:24.5

tall. They'll be good. From the news team at LinkedIn, I'm Jesse Hempel and this is Hello

0:32.4

Monday. It's our show about the changing nature of work and how that work is changing all of us.

0:38.8

Change.

0:40.3

That is the word that defines not only what our show is about, but what this moment is about, right?

0:46.1

And there was a time earlier in my life when change felt like something to be weathered.

0:51.2

When a change happened, I felt like I had time to get used to it. That's not how it is

0:56.0

right now. In the spring and summer of 2025, change is just the constant. And any time I start to

1:03.6

adjust to how things are, I look up and they're different again. And this is just how it's going to be

1:08.7

going forward. And that is a lot to wrap your mind around.

1:12.8

That's what we're gonna talk about today.

1:15.1

Our guest is Lisa Bodell.

1:17.2

She has this great book, it's called Why Simple Wins.

1:21.0

And she's thought a lot about these things.

1:23.1

She is an author and also a speaker.

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