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How to Lead a Sustainable Business – Emma Dabiri on Reinventing Stories Around Race

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

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4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2022

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

For this edition of Intelligence Squared, we join Alannah Weston, Chairman of Selfridges Group, for her podcast How to Lead a Sustainable Business, in which she speaks to thought leaders who are reinventing their sectors for a sustainable and just future. In this week’s special episode, Alannah and her guest explore the possibility of rethinking race. Emma Dabiri is an academic, broadcaster and author of two highly acclaimed books on the subject: Don’t Touch My Hair and What White People Can Do Next: From Allyship to Coalition. She discusses why ideas about race are cultural constructs and how understanding that race was invented to create and justify more racism could help us bring about an end to racial discrimination. How to Lead a Sustainable Business is brought to you by Selfridges Group and Intelligence Squared. If you enjoy this episode, please take a moment to subscribe, rate and review us wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I mean, Sirling, and today I'm at a McCain Potato Field.

0:04.0

Being chased by a massive wasp!

0:06.0

It's just a lady bird, Ian.

0:08.0

Well, it had a real wasp in her J.

0:10.0

Why are they here?

0:12.0

Well, we plot wildflowers to help encourage wildlife, like birds and insects.

0:16.0

So, we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good.

0:19.0

Yeah, exactly. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming.

0:22.0

Okay, this time it's definitely a wasp. My life's in danger.

0:25.0

Ian, that's a butterfly.

0:27.0

McCain, let's all chip in.

0:30.0

Hello, I'm Ian Sirling, and I'm with one of McCain's farmers who grow their potatoes.

0:34.0

Hang on, these are odd-looking potatoes.

0:36.0

That's kale, Ian.

0:38.0

You do know you need potato to make chips, right?

0:41.0

Yes, but we don't just grow potatoes.

0:43.0

We actually rotate different crops to help keep the soil healthy.

0:46.0

So, we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good.

0:49.0

Exactly, yeah. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming.

0:52.0

By the way, I do know the difference between kale and potatoes.

0:56.0

Of course you do.

0:58.0

McCain, let's all chip in.

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