I'm Jonathan Braylock, I'm Dra. Milligan, and I'm James III. And we're those of Black

MacGene Jump in Hollywood. It's a comedic podcast that reviews films with leading actors

of color and analyze them in the context of race and Hollywood's diversity issues.

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care where you get them. I just want you to listen. Don't threaten the people we need

them to listen. Okay. Okay. Okay. Sorry, guys. Listen. Listen to us. Yeah. Yeah. Put on

a happy voice. There's the external judgment we fear and also the internal judgment we

fear about quitting, right? And it reminds me of Liz Truss recently saying, I'm a fighter

not a quitter, like a day before she resigned, right? Exactly. So I'm a fighter and a quitter.

That's how I view myself. Oh, I like that. You know, T-shirt made. I would buy that

T-shirt. Yeah. I'm both. Welcome to How To. I'm Amanda Ripley. Today we've got a classic

conundrum for you. How do you know when to quit something and when to just power through?

We get a lot of rhetoric in our culture about gritty people who never quit. The entrepreneurs,

the actors, the athletes, the ones that refuse to give up. And then finally, emerge triumphant

on the medal stand. You might remember legendary gymnast, Carrie Strugg, who tore two ligaments

and then continued on vaulting to Olympic victory. She hurt herself on the first bus. Probably

the last thing she should have done was pause again, but she did. And now she is in a lot of

pain. A nine and seven one, so she has done it. Carrie Strugg has won the gold medal

with the United States team. But what about when your entire country's hopes and dreams

are not riding on your shoulders? What if you're just, you know, a regular guy running

a marathon, like Stephen Quail, who accidentally stepped on a loose water bottle eight miles

into the London marathon? He heard his hip, his calf, and his foot, but he kept going. He

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