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Hi, I'm Caroline Stambry and I am Divor's Not Debt. I'm a former Bravo TV star and now former wife.

Fresh off the back of my divorce, I'm bringing real stories, real life, real talk on all things that aren't said between each other, society, the sheets and everything in the middle.

And lucky me, you'll be joining me for the journey, so buckle up.

Welcome to episode two of Divorced Not Dead. Yay!

I'm in my house again joined by Melissa who is at the background who's my assistant

very long suffering and she will chime in if I miss or has any good

stories to out me with halfway through.

Or maybe if she's, you know, making herself sound better in a situation

than she didn't come off well.

Ouch.

Just kidding.

Maybe you'll turn off your microphone.

So episode two, we have decided to be about how do you know when to pull the plug or how do you make that decision or you know, when to stop trying, when is the right time, how do you know it's just never going to get any better and

you should cut your losses and jump kind of thing.

And I think that that's a question, and it's so funny to me that people have, so many women come to me now because they're like what made you do it how

did you know that it was over and from the outside looking in you know there's

nothing was nothing wrong with my marriage and you

know that's not to say by the way I didn't have like I understand you know I'm not

coming from an abusive relationship former relationship that had like anything that you know I couldn't have

or he couldn't live with. But I think that we made a decision or I you know I started with me I think we just got to a point where I think it's worse I think it's indifference and

indifference is just no emotion and also I think things like you know we were doing or I was

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