Who do you want to follow? Someone who's constantly reminding you how great they are or someone

who's constantly making you feel great. We have to humble ourselves to be lifted up. That's what

pride will do to try to build these walls of protection. And what it really does is just build a

prison of limitation. Dear young married couple, one of the clearest places pride gets exposed is in leadership,

and not just on the stage, but leadership at home, leadership in the marriage, leadership with

your children, leadership with people who depend on you. Today we're joined by Pastor Josh

Malasaw, author of Mark of the Least, for a conversation on the death of pride in leadership.

Josh is a pastor, husband, father, and someone deeply passionate about helping people grow in

every area of life. For more than a decade, he has walked with individuals, couples,

and leaders through seasons of clarity, confrontation, healing, repair, and growth.

In this episode, we talk about what happens when ego disguises itself as strength,

when control disguises itself as responsibility, and when defensiveness keeps us from becoming

the kind of people God is calling us to be.

Pastor Josh also gives us some practical scripts that you can use for receiving feedback,

for course correcting, because in the kingdom of God, true authority is formed by becoming the

least. On to the episode. Pastor Josh Malasov, thank you so much for joining us on the podcast

today. Welcome. It is such an honor to be with you guys.

Man, we are looking forward to this conversation.

Just because I think we are all trying our best to live life well.

And I think we were talking about this before.

Nobody, you know, enters into life and says, you know, I hope I lose at this thing.

And we try all these tactics to get ahead and to show our competence.

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