Hello, this is the Redbox Podcast, I'm Matt Chulie, bringing the best of my timeswaters

show, don't forget you can listen live Monday to Friday, 10th or 1 on your DAB radio, on

your smart speaker, on the Times Radio app. Thank you for all of the mixed messages about

the appearance of Zippy on yesterday's episode. Never let it be said that we don't surprise

you.

Right, coming up on today's episode, wise is lying bastard lying to me, Rob Burley,

who's worked in political interviews on TV for years and years with Andrew Neal and

Andrew Marmon, Jeremy Paxman and much else besides. He joins me to take me through the

art of the political interview and can you get your interview E to tell the truth? That's

coming up in just a moment, but first, as ever, we kick off with the columnists.

Manvine Rana, and someone called Matthew on Times Radio. And we say hello to Manvine Rana,

hello, Manvine Rana.

Hello.

And this week, someone called Matthew is Matthew Syed, hello, Matthew. Morning. Nice

to have you with us. Now, let's start with, we talk quite a lot about housing. This

is extraordinary. This more than half of adults age 24 under live with their parents in England

and Wales, according to the latest census figures. I also found that more couples are delaying

starting families due to economic stress. The biggest rise is in London. Manvine, how long

did you stay with your parents?

I mean, I didn't it was as bad as it is now, but longer than I intended to. I mean, you

really have to feel sorry for young people at the moment. I just think it's, especially

with sort of interest rates rising. It's just got harder and harder to get on the housing

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