Welcome to Betrayal Trauma Recovery, BTR.org. I'm Anne. I'm sure you remember what it was like when you were

searching for help, maybe for your husband, hoping to find the right program or therapist. That's why I started

podcasting. I supported my husband through seven years of pornography addiction recovery and not one

therapist during that time told me I was experiencing emotional

and psychological abuse and sexual coercion. I didn't want any other woman on the planet to be in

the dark. If you're like the majority of my listeners, you're experiencing the type of abuse

that's invisible and difficult to wrap your head around. Your husband is using porn or having

affairs or lying to you, and you're getting the same bad advice about how to improve communication

or your relationship. If you need support from women who totally understand, check out our daily

group session schedule at BTR.org slash group. We'd love to see you in a session today. One simple, anonymous way to help spread the word

is to click, follow, or subscribe to the Betrayal Trauma Recovery podcast on your favorite podcasting

app. While you're there, every five-star rating helps make this podcast more visible and will

help save other women from getting the wrong kind of help, like a couple

program that will make this type of abuse worse. For those of you who follow or subscribe to this

podcast, thank you so much. Your support means so much to me. On today's episode, I'll be interviewing

Andrea Hips. She's a licensed social worker and is a certified divorce coach who helps parents all along

the divorce continuum resolve their divorce debris and create beautiful two-addressed families for their

kids. Wow, that sounds like a magic, magical land. So I'm excited to talk to you today, Andrea.

Andrea is also the author of the international bestselling book,

The Worst Time of Your Life, Four Practices to Get You Through the Pain of Divorce, which outlines

four practices you need to create wholeness and healing for you and your kids before, during,

and after divorce. As a regular contributor to our nation's divorce recovery conversation,

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