How to Have Great Conversations (Update)
People I (Mostly) Admire
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🗓️ 20 September 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Today's episode is an encore presentation of a conversation I had with best-selling author Charles Duhigg. |
| 0:10.0 | Much of the discussion centered around how to have great conversations, the topic of his latest book. |
| 0:16.0 | One thing I learned talking to Charles is that he doesn't just write about super communicators. He absolutely |
| 0:22.2 | is one himself. |
| 0:30.2 | My guest today, Charles Duhigg is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and the author |
| 0:34.6 | of Blockbuster bestsellers, including The Power of Habit. |
| 0:38.3 | He's got a new book out entitled Super Communicators, How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection. |
| 0:45.1 | And I found out that we're actually living through a golden age of understanding the neurology |
| 0:49.3 | and psychology of communication. So there's a lot of insights that can help us. |
| 0:57.6 | Welcome. of communication. So there's a lot of insights that can help us. Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve Levitt. |
| 1:04.6 | I honestly believe that understanding how to have great conversations is one of the most |
| 1:09.2 | valuable and underappreciated skills a person can develop. |
| 1:12.6 | I wouldn't have said that three years ago, but having this podcast has led me to think a lot about conversation. |
| 1:18.0 | In the two weeks since I read Charles Duhigg's book, I've tried hard to put the book's ideas into practice, |
| 1:22.9 | and I have to say, it has been shocking to me how powerful these tools are. |
| 1:32.0 | So you've got a brand new book, and it's called Super Communicators, How to Unlock the |
| 1:37.2 | Secret Language of Connection. I'm just imagining that if I'd written that book, I would feel |
| 1:42.5 | tremendous pressure to be an amazing conversation partner. |
| 1:46.5 | And I would hate to have that expectation always hanging over me. Do you feel the pressure I'm |
| 1:52.6 | describing? Only in one context, which is that ever so often now my wife, during a dinner time |
| 1:57.9 | conversation, when I've like monologued for the last seven or eight minutes, |
| 2:01.4 | we'll say, you know, there's this book about communication that I think you could read that would |
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