How to have difficult conversations - with Gina Martin

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Crooked Media

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.6 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 August 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In a politics increasingly dominated by ‘wedge issues’ and the ‘woke’ divide, Nish and Coco explore whether it’s possible to have constructive conversations on social issues with people with whom you disagree. The activist and author Gina Martin reveals the lessons she’s learnt from her career as an activist, which started when she was a victim of upskirting. Her campaign ended up changing the law to make upskirting a specific sexual offence. Gina also has lots of tips for Pod Save The UK from her new book ‘No Offence, But…’.

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0:00.0	So, just like our political leaders, Potsaphe the UK is on its summer recess, and by the
0:16.3	time you listen to this, Coco, you will be one week into your honeymoon.
0:20.0	Oh yes.
0:21.0	Wow, that was a lot sleazier than I'd hoped for.
0:26.0	That was considerably sleazier than I'd hoped for.
0:28.0	It's not going to be a sleazier honeymoon actually.
0:30.0	It's quite active. There's a lot of backpacking involved, a lot of trekking.
0:35.0	I'm going to bring my hiking shoes, which is not synonymous with a sexy vibe.
0:39.0	You've got hiking shoes.
0:40.0	I always forget you're one of our great outdoorsmen.
0:44.0	I'm the only ethnic in the countryside here I am walking around.
0:49.0	It's just you with a neat aroundy.
0:51.0	The only Asians in the country side.
0:56.0	In fairness though, I did get these camping shoes for a music festival, which I guess makes it a bit more palatable.
1:02.0	Yeah, right.
1:03.0	But yeah, it's going to be quite busy.
1:04.0	The main thing for me is that I get to not be in Britain.
1:08.0	That's the main sale.
1:10.0	The last stop is great.
1:11.0	Marriage turns out wicked.
1:13.0	Yeah.
1:14.0	But not being in Britain, elite.
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