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Chasing Life

How to Have Difficult Conversations in a Polarized World

Chasing Life

CNN

Nutrition, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.47.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In a world marked by war and political polarization, it can certainly feel at times like we have all lost touch with the art of compromise – the wisdom to recognize that real progress demands sacrifice. Except, that’s not entirely true. Dr. Sanjay Gupta sits down with social psychologist Peter T. Coleman, author of “The Way Out: How to Overcome Toxic Polarization,” to discuss the fundamentals of navigating difficult conversations, how our brains evolved to handle conflict, and why reaching a compromise is not always the best solution. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This election season has certainly been a roller coaster of a ride, and I hate to say it,

0:05.2

but it's reminded me that sometimes it feels like we live in a world of intractable conflict,

0:10.7

wars in Ukraine and the Middle East, political polarization here in the United States.

0:15.6

I know a lot of people have been telling me that just gathering with family for the holidays

0:19.2

can be a struggle. With all of this

0:22.1

conflict, I think there's certainly been times when I have felt like, I don't know, maybe we're

0:27.2

somehow getting worse at this, at just talking with each other, and that maybe we'd all be

0:32.6

better off if we could reconnect with the art of compromise. If we were more willing and able to give something up

0:39.3

every now and then, maybe that could make a world a difference. But to that, my guest today would say,

0:46.6

not so fast. Many people think about conflict resolution is that it's a compromise. And in some

0:52.6

situations, might be the optimal solution,

0:54.7

right? But if you zoom out a little bit, then you can start to kind of mix and match and

0:59.7

problem solve together. Dr. Peter T. Coleman is a social psychologist and he's author of the book

1:06.8

The Way Out, How to overcome toxic polarization.

1:15.1

He's a researcher at Columbia University, where he runs this place called the Difficult Conversations Lab. Really fascinating. After decades of work in the field,

1:20.6

Coleman knows a lot about how our brains and our bodies respond to conflict. So today we sat

1:26.1

down to talk about why difficult conversations are so

1:29.7

difficult and why our evolutionary instincts makes them feel maybe even harder these days.

1:35.9

Perhaps most importantly at the end of the discussion, you're going to hear some simple steps we

1:40.3

can all take to get better at conflict resolution, whether it's with the coworker, a neighbor,

1:45.8

or even a spouse. I think some of his tips are going to surprise you. They surprise me.

1:50.6

They're going to make you think differently. I'm Dr. Sanjay, CNN's chief medical correspondent,

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