This is How to Be a Better Human. I'm your host, Chris Duffy.

Today on the show, we're talking with Simone Stoles off about how to handle uncertainty.

How do you make the right choice when you're not sure what the right choice is?

What if you're not sure there even is a right choice at all?

Simone talks about these questions in his new book, which is called How to Not Know,

the Value of Uncertainty in a World that Demands Answers. Here's a clip from our conversation where Simone is talking about what he means by the value of uncertainty. In the book, I tell

a story about a couple who's wrestling with whether they want to get divorced or not. And their

couples therapist was Esther Perel, the sort of famed couple's therapist.

And Esther said something that's really stuck with me, which is that trust is an active

engagement with the unknown.

In order to be in a relationship, or in order to start a company or a project or to put your creative

work out into the world, you need to cultivate some aspect of faith, not in sort of just a

woo-woo spiritual sense, but faith as in placing your heart on something, making a bet on something

that you don't necessarily know can be

proven with evidence quite yet. I think that is not only an incredibly important skill

for an entrepreneur or someone that's deciding whether or not they want to stay married,

or someone who is about to embark on an unknown journey, but for all of us in the face of this world that we

currently live in, we need both faith and we need to take action.

We're going to talk a lot more about uncertainty and not knowing, but first I'm going to take

a very specific action, and that is to read you some podcast ads. We will be right back.

And we are back.

Today on the show, we're talking with Simone Stolsoff about the value of uncertainty.

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