How To Handle Constant Exhaustion (Without Blaming Yourself) | Jay Michaelson
10% Happier with Dan Harris
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4.6 • 12.9K Ratings
🗓️ 15 February 2026
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
A conversation with meditation teacher Jay Michaelson about what to do when you're constantly tired, fried, and running on empty.
If you feel exhausted seemingly all the time—whether it's a low hum or something louder—you're not alone. In this conversation, Jay Michaelson, our Teacher of the Month for February, talks with executive producer DJ Cashmere about the relentless fatigue so many of us are experiencing, and what actually helps.
We talk about:
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Why your first move should be self-compassion (not self-blame)—especially in a culture obsessed with sleep optimization
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The important oscillation between being with difficulty versus reaching for an antidote
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HALT: the acronym that can save you (Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired)
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How to investigate exhaustion without trying to fix it right away
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Practical antidotes: screen hygiene, micro-naps, and yes, brain machines
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How our Stone Age brains are being hijacked by tech companies
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Why nap shame is "pure garbage" and you should kiss it goodbye
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The social conditions causing exhaustion that are beyond individual control
The through-line: this isn't about becoming superhuman or gritting your teeth through exhaustion. It's about relating to it differently, being kinder to yourself, and using whatever tools actually work—even if they feel unconventional.
Jay's guided meditations and live AMA sessions are available throughout February in the 10% with Dan Harris app. Find more from Jay at jaymichaelson.substack.com.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris. |
| 0:07.8 | Hey, gang. here's a question. |
| 0:23.5 | Do you feel constantly exhausted? |
| 0:30.5 | Not just underslapped, although many of us feel that too, myself included, but also generally fried. |
| 0:39.1 | Today we're going to hear from my friend Jay Michelson, an incredible meditation teacher, author, lawyer, and more about how to deal with this general sense of fatigue being frazzled. Jay's got tons of practical strategies and not just |
| 0:46.2 | the obvious stuff. We get into self-compassion, which he takes beyond mere cliche or bland |
| 0:51.7 | exhortation. We talk about the disutility of feeling shame, about using |
| 0:56.1 | modern technological devices, which most of us need. We talk about something called micro-naps, |
| 1:01.5 | and then something I had never heard of called brain machines. By the way, Jay is our teacher |
| 1:06.5 | of the month over on 10% with Dan Harris, my new meditation app. That means he's crafting guided |
| 1:12.1 | meditations for the app and also participating in some of our weekly live meditation and |
| 1:17.3 | Q&A sessions, which we do every Tuesday at 4 and you should join us. If you want to check out |
| 1:21.4 | the app, you can head on over to Danharris.com. There's a free 14-day trial. And if you can't |
| 1:27.1 | afford it, just hit us up at support at |
| 1:29.5 | Dan Harris.com and we'll give it to you for free. Okay, we're going to take a quick break, |
| 1:33.4 | and then we will be right back with Jay Michelson in conversation with the executive producer |
| 1:39.2 | of this show, DJ Kashmir. Right before I recorded this ad, I was in my closet looking around for what I was |
| 1:48.3 | going to wear tomorrow. I've got a family lunch and I was a little disappointed to see that my |
| 1:53.1 | favorite pair of pants, literally my favorite pair of pants for two years now, they're unavailable. |
| 1:58.8 | I think they're still in the laundry. You know who makes those |
| 2:01.0 | pants? Quince. Quince has the everyday essentials that I love with quality that lasts, |
| 2:07.1 | organic cotton sweaters, polos for every occasion, lighter jackets that keep you warm in the changing |
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