Hello and welcome to nobody panic with me Stevie and hello to Tessa.

Hello thank you for having me.

You're lucky now I was going to try and make some sort of plant reference and with plant link, but I can't.

I'm just going to go straight in with just literally what's happening.

We're leaving you.

We have a third person with us.

Who will it be?

Me and Tessa, as you know you know were very bad at gardening.

We've done that houseplands episode that was didn't have any tips in it and

everyone wrote in and said that wasn't helpful. So we decided to enlist somebody that I've sort of known and not known for a long time.

You may know her on Instagram already. Her handle is at Nauticulture, sort of like an N-O-U-G-H-T-I culture, that's in case you didn't get the full thing or on Twitter at

Alice underscore Emily but our actually name is Alice Vincent she is a writer a

green-fingered woman who I have literally stared at your Instagram for so long being like God your plants look good.

Welcome to the podcast outlets. Thank you so much. It is really fun to be talking to you because I feel like I have been very aware of your writing for a really long time and we sort of weirdly circled each other in the incestuous world of London people writing things.

But since we're a tiny amoeba and here we are.

Here we are.

It's very nice to be here.

And your garden is flourishing. It's a real source. Yeah, it's all relative, Alice, isn't it?

I've had to throw out my second succulent of the year. It's pretty much the first week of the year.

So that's where I'm at.

But you've got a book out.

Why women grow?

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