Hello and welcome to the Slow Home Podcast. This is the podcast all about slow living in a fast-paced world.

And my name is Brooke McCallory. Thank you very much for joining us today.

I'm Ben McCallery and welcome to episode 203.

So in today's episode, I chat with the wonderful Erin Rhodes, who you may know as the rogue ginger, which is such a cool name

for a website.

I love it.

I really love it.

Erin is a zero-waste advocate, plastic-free advocate, a low-waste advocate as well.

And she's been writing about her experiences and the changes that she's made in her home

and her family's life for the past few years.

And she's just like a font of knowledge.

She really is.

And I loved talking to her because for a while I would look at someone like Erin and feel intimidated by the changes

that she had made to her life, which is significant, like hugely significant in reducing her

waste to almost zero. And I would feel a bit, a bit hopeless that I couldn't make those changes myself.

But talking to her was such a relief because she talks about how that was not her five years ago.

And the changes that she's made have been very gradual and very intentional.

There's been heaps of mistakes and heaps of accidental plastic bags and straws.

And yeah, when she was talking about it, I was thinking about you, particularly when we spoke

about it the other day. And she's just so refreshingly honest and accessible.

Accessible, absolutely. She makes the idea of zero waste living and plastic free living really accessible, which I think is something that we struggle with, like all of us. And we had a question last week in The Host 4 about this idea of eco-anxiety. And Erin talks about it today, actually, and she calls it environmental overwhelm or guilt, sorry, environmental guilt and how feeling that kind of guilt about not doing everything perfectly

often leads us to doing nothing. Yeah, okay. So she and I talk about that a lot as well.

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