Hi, today we're replaying one of our very first episodes. It's perfect for this

holiday season. It's about a daughter contemplating how to give a really big gift to

her mom, even though her mom's pretty reluctant to receive it.

It's a really touching episode and hopefully a great one to listen to with the people that you love.

And we'll see you next week with a brand new episode.

How to make your New Year's Resolution stick.

Thanks so much for listening.

I think she just kind of wants like a kidney to land in her mailbox,

you know, to have like no associated guilt or worry about the donor and I said but if I take it out it's not

going to be any good to me anymore you might as well like I would hand it to her on a plate

and she would you know have to out of good manners take it but she said

no I won't take it I won't take your kidney. This is how to a show where we help people figure out the answers to life's most important questions.

I'm Charles DuHig.

Today, we're going to do something a little bit different.

We're going to talk to someone who's facing an excruciating decision and ask, how do you get

at peace with making a huge sacrifice? How do you plunge in when there's something you know you ought to do but you're scared?

Because this choice will cause you pain and suffering.

And in the end, it might not even help the person you're doing it for.

My name is Mary. I live in Utah and am a mother and a daughter and a sister and I work in research.

And how many kids do you have?

I have four.

My youngest is 12 and my oldest is 19.

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