If you want to use organic marketing to get more leads for your business or you're starting from scratch,

whether it's a new department or brand new for your business, I talked to a room full business owners for eight hours,

and this is one of the best moments that we pulled out of just talking about

organic strategy to help them make more money. There are these two worlds where

there's like the world that makes money and just needs traffic and the world that

has so much traffic and has no money and so when you learn how to marry those two, you just make absolutely obscene amounts of money.

I mean, like Logan Paul merging with Prime, like he had the audience and the traffic and

then he had a way to make money. Mr. Beast with the chocolate, like he had, he had the audience and the traffic and then he had a way to make money.

Mr. Beast with the chocolate like he had he had distribution he just needed a product.

Alex Ramozie needed a product for the distribution base school, right?

Tons of traffic where do we send it? Right now, if you have paid ads,

starting organic will immediately make the paid ads more profitable. Because what will happen is

people will look at the ads, then they will look at your organic, and then they will take

the next step.

Even if they took the next step and booked a call, they will actually show.

And if they show, they'll have a higher percentage of closing.

Like, don't worry about the views and all of that stuff that happens in the early days.

Just keep making it and just think about it in the beginning is lead nurture.

In the early days it'll be nurture.

As you get bigger and bigger, it'll become acquisition.

But just from a value perspective, if you can just make that shift, it'll make your life a lot easier.

From a scaling organic perspective I I tend to always start with an agency

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