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Neil, you know what really grinds my gears?

What?

So, you know, typically when someone has you record on their podcast, for example,

they'll give you the raw recordings, okay? Yes. If you ask for it? If you ask for it, correct? Right. And so like whether, you know, when I did a podcast with Gary V, like I gave him the raw recordings and then when I'm on someone else's podcast, they'll give me the raw recordings. Because if you do the raw recordings, what's going to happen? You're going to get a lot more reach, right?

More reach than you would without having the other person take the raw recordings, correct?

In theory, yes, because they'll push it and then you'll push it.

And there's no rules on this, but I believe the common etiquette is when you take the raw

recording, you tag them or you mention them

in the social post as well, which helps their podcast or their brand. So it's a win-win in theory.

Exactly. In theory, right? And so I remember when I did it with Gary, he took the interview and he

published it to his channel too. And again, you're doing the podcast with the other person because

you want to maximize reach, right?

And when Neil talks about etiquette, it is kind of, at least in America, the etiquette is that you do that, right? And so recently I did a podcast with someone. It was a very high quality studio. And then I asked her afterwards, hey, can I get the recordings? She said yes. And then I thought there was going to be no issues, right? all that to say is, you know, they've kind of reneged on the deal,

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