What would happen if you doubled your rates? Great challenge to throw up someone. What would

you, what would happen? And I sat back and I was like, I had to think, like, I'm not the smartest

tool in the ship when it comes to, I'm like, double my rates. Ten clients, let's see. If I double my

rates to $200, hmm, I might only get half the clients. Like, not everyone might take me up on that offer,

but I'd still be earning the same amount. But working half the clients. Like, not everyone might take me up on that offer, but I'd still be

earning the same amount, but working half the time. And I was like, cling, like, chiching,

you know, light bulb moment. I was like, I'm going to try that. Welcome back to the podcast. This

week I chat with designer and entrepreneur Ryan Bowles. He wants to help creatives and freelancers

push themselves a little bit further and grow their businesses. In this podcast, we learn about

how Ryan went from failing art school to becoming a designer. And we also break down the three

biggest points of struggle for freelancers. That's how to get clients.

How do you build and develop relationships with those clients? And what do you charge?

We cover that and a whole lot more as well as his entire story and background on this podcast.

It's a great one. But real quick, before we get into that,

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