Hello and welcome to this very special interview where I am joined by Stephen Carson, otherwise known as Radley of How Are You, Sir?

Very good. Thank you for joining us. It's good to be with you again. Yeah, it's an honor and pleasure. If anyone doesn't know, we recorded the breakfast show this morning.

And we talked about the early church. A little bit. It's been a bit. It's been a while. Yeah. Oh, our original conversation like three years ago or something. Yeah, it's been years. That was a fascinating conversation. Yeah. I'd like to do it again, actually, pick your brain more. Right. I find late antiquity or early, the early Christian period, absolutely fascinating. I gathered because you quickly, I quickly took until I was out of my depth.

If it came to anything with Roman emperors and stuff like that, you were, you were killing me.

No, no, it's fascinating. There was loads of things in there you said that I didn't know.

So, no, great stuff. Okay, so today, though, we thought we'll talk about something completely different.

Yeah. We thought we'll talk about, well, mutual AIDS societies, the history and what they are, what

they mean, what they could mean going forward and everything.

And so it's a little bit of a speciality of yours, if you want to tell us about that.

Yeah, but there's two things coming into this that I have behind me coming into this. One is that I did a series on my

channel, Radical Liberation on YouTube, on mutual aid societies, where I went through a book by David

Beto. And he was focused more on the American side, but it's kind of a very similar story in the

UK, for example.

And so I just went through that book because I wanted to understand this history, and

then I helped actually form one.

I helped form a brotherhood.

In real life.

The Old Glory Club.

I don't know if you've heard of that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I was the first president of the Old Glory Club, and I continue to be on the central,

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