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How To!: Forgiveness: An Exploration

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3.8546 Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

TJ has spent years trying to heal herself and put her childhood behind her. Both of her parents struggled with addiction, which made for a very complicated, unstable upbringing. After sacrificing her own childhood to raise her siblings—TJ feels deeply wounded by her mother in particular. She really wants to let it go. The only question is how. On this episode of How To!, we bring on journalist Marina Cantacuzino. Marina is the founder of The Forgiveness Project, a charity that shares stories of victims, survivors, and perpetrators of “crime and conflict who have rebuilt their lives following hurt and trauma.” She’s also the author of a new book called Forgiveness: An Exploration. Marina shares some powerful stories about others who have opened their hearts to forgiveness—even if it took awhile—and began to free themselves from resentment.  If you liked this episode, check out: “How To Forgive the Unforgivable.” Do you have a question without an answer? Send us a note at howto@slate.com or leave us a voicemail at 646-495-4001 and we might have you on the show. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on How To!. Sign up now at slate.com/howtoplus to help support our work. Want a behind-the-scenes look at how we create the show? Check out Slate's Pocket Collections for research and reading lists, as well as additional insights into how we think about the stories behind the episodes.  Sponsored by Saks.com. Check out the Holiday Gift Guide on saks.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, how to team. My name's T.J. I'm calling because I have a question, a problem to solve.

0:09.1

I want to know how to forgive someone who hasn't asked for forgiveness. They say forgiveness is for yourself and it helps you move on some things.

0:20.2

And I'm ready to forgive somebody,

0:22.7

but I don't really know what that looks like. Welcome to how to the show where we take your

0:29.3

thornyest questions, questions that Google cannot answer and try to tackle them with the

0:35.3

wisest people we can find. I'm Amanda Ripley. Today we're going to grapple with the wisest people we can find.

0:38.7

I'm Amanda Ripley.

0:44.2

Today, we're going to grapple with the message you just heard, which TJ left on our how-to hotline.

0:50.4

She's 35 years old now, but still reckoning with things that happened when she was much younger.

0:56.6

My father was in and out of prison, so my mom was the one who raised us for a while until she went to prison. My parents are drug addicts. My father did pass away when I was nine.

1:02.9

My mother continued using, and she was a parent at 17, so, you know, she was a little busy

1:08.3

party to be a parent. T.J. says her mom had grown up with her own alcoholic mother. And after having T.J. at 17,

1:16.4

she had two more kids. And it was a constant struggle. This is where we should probably mention

1:22.6

that this episode will touch on child abuse, neglect, and suicide. We grew up in the projects.

1:28.9

We've had people, you know, coming in and out of our home, robbing us.

1:34.2

My mother allowed unspeakable things to happen to my sister and I, complete neglect.

1:40.9

And we kind of had to grow up really quickly and take care of ourselves.

1:44.8

From a young age then, TJ stepped into that caregiving role for her siblings,

1:49.3

dropping out of school to help keep a roof over their heads.

1:52.6

I had three jobs. I did all the things I needed to do. I was always hustling, always trying

1:57.3

to pay the bills and always trying to take care of everything. And I had so much anger

2:03.2

for this woman because she stole everything from me. I felt that I was robbed of a childhood.

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