From the K-P-F-K studios in Southern California,

it's the Ralph Nader Radio Hour.

Stand up, stand up.

You've been sitting great to song.

Welcome to the Ralph Nader Radio Hour. My name is Steve Scrovan. David Feldman is out today, but we'll be back next week.

But we still have the man to the hour, Ralph Nader.

Hello, Ralph.

Hello, Steve.

We have a great show again today.

I know I say that every week, but I don't know,

we keep topping ourselves.

And even though we call attention to a lot of problems on this

program we also like to couple that with solutions.

For instance last week we spoke to environmentalists Paul Hawking about how to reverse global warming,

not mitigate it, but reverse it. And today we continue in that vein, this time we venture back

into the digital realm and its overwhelming influence in our day-to-day lives.

Our first guest today is one of the leading thinkers on the subject of the digital revolution. His name is Andrew Keene, and he has written a book called How to

Fix the Future. The Industrial Revolution went through a reformation in the 20th

century in terms of trying to get a handle on things like air and water pollution and working conditions

and all the harms to the human body and the planet that our industrial society was causing.

Obviously that fight is ongoing, especially in the wake of the deregulation of the Trump era and

Ralph's work was a big part of that reformation.

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