How to Fix the Criminal Justice System

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

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🗓️ 2 May 2019

⏱️ 42 minutes

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What’s the best way to solve America’s mass incarceration crisis? NYT Magazine writer and "Charged" author Emily Bazelon joins Michelle Goldberg to discuss the unchecked power of prosecutors as problem and potential solution. Then, the columnists debate what a better criminal justice system could look like. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0	I'm Michelle Goldberg.
0:01.1	I'm Ross Douthit.
0:02.4	I'm David Lee Unhart, and this is the argument.
0:05.9	This week, a new book on criminal justice reform.
0:09.0	Well, if you lock up all these people,
0:10.7	are we really going to be safer?
0:12.1	What are we really doing here?
0:13.9	Then, what would a better system look like?
0:16.7	I'm actually fine with a 20-year cap on prison sentences.
0:20.8	And finally, a recommendation.
0:22.7	So you drink your coffee, black, David?
0:30.2	I'm not going to be a criminal justice reform
0:32.2	as quickly as possible.
0:33.7	Criminal justice reform has quickly become a hot political topic.
0:36.7	And it's unlike almost any other hot political topic,
0:39.9	because there are actually some areas of bipartisan agreement.
0:43.5	President Trump recently signed a bill back by both Democrats
0:46.8	and Republicans that would make small changes
0:49.3	to the federal system of criminal justice.
0:51.7	You also have both libertarians and progressives
0:54.6	supporting moves at the local level.
0:56.7	Emily Bazelon is a writer for the New York Times magazine,
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