Dude, when you use the word stack, I get all fired up.

Dude, why don't we just describe our podcast that way? Us, founders acquired, it's the most potent stack to stop. You're boosting for founders. Yeah. I feel like I can rule the world. I know I could be what I want to. I put my all in it like no days off. On a road, let's travel. All right. So Sam, I was in Austin last week, and I was at a restaurant.

So we're sitting down and I put my all in it like no days off on the road. Let's travel. All right.

So Sam, I was in Austin last week and I was at a restaurant. So we're sitting down at the table. Guy comes up and he's a fan of the podcast and he says hi. And he was like, oh, yeah, I love the episodes to you and Sam, blah, blah, blah. And I asked him, I go, what's one thing you want us to talk about? we're getting almost a thousand episodes in.

You need a little inspiration.

And so I said, what's one thing you want us to talk about? We're getting almost a thousand episodes in.

You need a little inspiration. And so I said, what's one thing you want us to talk about? And he goes, well, I don't know what other people want, but here's what I want. He told me, he's 24 years old. He's like, I know I'm smart. I know I'm hardworking. I just don't know which lane to go in. I'm ready to swim, but I don't know which lane to go in.

And what he said was he's like, you know, basically the generic advice is like, oh, just follow your passion. And he basically described this problem, which is like, I've been in school. My teachers, my parents, like I was told what to do. You got to take these classes. You got to take these tests. You got to get these marks.

And that's, it's like super structured. All of a sudden, graduates. Now he's just on his own. So went from super structured to completely unstructured. And he's like, I know that I should be doing something. My friends are all doing this. I don't think I want to do that. Banking, consulting type of jobs. and his question was basically they say follow your passion

but how? How do you to do that, banking, consulting type of jobs. And his question was basically,

they say follow your passion, but how? How do you actually do that? Like, what would you

guys actually do if you could go back? So that's what I wanted to talk about, why I think that

follow your passion is terrible advice and what you should do instead. Great. I think I will mostly,

it sounds like based off your one line response right there, I might agree with you on everything. First of all, I want to hear what advice you gave him, but you told me that you wanted to, you also looked at the history of following your passion. Is that true? Well, I have a historical kind of reference. So I was reading this thing by Joseph Campbell. He famously came up with a hero's journey.

So a circle that explains how Star Wars works and Harry Potter and all the great stories,

they sort of start with the same structure.

So this guy, Joseph Campbell, he gave a lot of interviews about his philosophy.

And he had this phrase that I think is a little bit better. It sounds a little hokey,

but when you explain it, I think it clicks. And he goes, he started off by saying, don't follow

your passion, follow your bliss. And later he changed it to follow your blisters. So he's explaining,

and he explains for himself. He's like, oh, you know, for me, the way I arrived at this kind of hero's journey thing was because when I was a kid or a teenager, I was obsessed with studying like indigenous tribes and Native American stories and myths. And I got really into all these different myths. First as a consumer, then I started to wonder, like, how are all these myths? Like, why are these so, why do I love these so much? What's the structure of these things? And that's how he kind of discovered this story shape

that became the hero's journey. When he's talking about bliss, he basically made a couple of points.

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